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Joined on: Wednesday, 8th January 2003, 11:13, Last used: Wednesday, 8th January 2003, 11:13

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About this user: Homepage: www.ukbitcharg.co.uk

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RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

Kev, I e-mailed Sean directly to get the details. Need a bit more info regarding the TV and its connections really.

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

Don`t be stupid! Imagine a company as big as Safeways, has millions of loyal customers, hundreds who have bought various items of electrical equipment from their electronics department. If Moprrisons do go ahead and buy out Safeways then they will have to take on board this consideration. If they don`t, they are waving goodbye to many many customers.

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

Hi Sean,

On the back of the DVD player are two more audio inputs, `AUX` and `VCR`. You can connect your TV and/or video (or games console) to these. In order to use them though, you need to turn the DVD player on then press either `AUX` or `VCR`.

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

My whole point all along, was that if your happy with what you`ve bought then everythings cool! I said it enough times in my replies! For some reason it was bypassed and we ended up geting this long thread.

And I don`t care what anyone says, you`re right, you`re not `only` paying for the badge, but don`t try and tell me they don`t up the prices because they know they can and people will buy because of who they are - they ain`t stupid.

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

I think yourself and Jimb0b there seem to be under the `illusion` as you put it, that `were` under the `illusion` that this system is better then more expensive systems! I never, ever said that, all I ever said is that this system is excellent value for money. I also said (this is the part that our friend Jimb0b found difficult to interpret) that `IN MY OPINION` and experience I don`t find it/have never found it beneficial to purchase expensive items when budget/cheaper items satisfy my needs.

You confused me a little on your secondline in that reply. Are you saying that branded is usually better but theres not a lot of difference between branded and budget!? I may well have interpreted it incorrectly, but that kind of contradicts what the rest of your statement says surely!?

Jesus christ! Well, I certainly would not put this system in a `kids` bedroom! 3/4 volume is too loud for me to bear, and if its too loud for me then I`d hate to think how loud it would be to `kids`. In my opinion, as I`ve heard the system and not just `speculating`, its fine for an average sized living room. I mean, are you guys loaded or something? By the sounds of it, in the way your replies come across, you`ve got living rooms the size of football pitches.

I`m afraid I have to disagree with you. Just becuase nobody has heard of them does not mean they make s*** products. Theres plenty of companies you`ll never have heard of in other countries which are very successful in their respective countries. When they branch out into other countries, people haven`t heard of them, it doesn`t make their products automatically s***!

You say bigger brand companies spend money on development. Well think about this for one moment, a company gains your trust in its early years so much so that you`ll stick with them through the years and you`ll only buy their products. Whos to say they won`t use this knowledge to their advantage?

Budget designs do certainly not take their ideas from other budget designs! They take their ideas from the bigger brands because they know that if they can offer quality as good as or similar too those bigger brand products at a fraction of the cost, there product will be tempting enough for people to try it and in most cases leaving the customer wholly satisfied with the product and the money they`ve spent.

Oh, and I`ve had certainly had my share of bad `after sales service` from some `bigger brands`, don`t be under the `illusion` that they all offer excellent consumer service.

So just for the record:

"I have purchased well known brands in the past, however I generally stick to budget brands. I don`t think that budget brands are `better` then expensive brands, I think that most are simply good value for money. I don`t have a single problem with anyone who buys expensive or budget products. However, I will defend my purchase if its worth defending, especially against those who are `speculating` as they`ve not actually seen/heard the system."

Peace.

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

Just found a novel feature. Screensavers aren`t new on DVD players but I`ve never seen one like the one on the Lenoxx HT-500! It simply greys the screen out except for a small circle which bounces around the screen. The circle is transparent and lets the image below the screensaver come through - cool :o)

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

Couldn`t have put it better myself Kevin. Anyone whos got one of these kits, I`m sure will agree with the statement that its `excellent value for money`. If they aren`t happy, certainly take it back - I know I would.

I often wonder how people judge a systems sound level? I mean, I know speakers have their different ratings but also peoples hearing isn`t always the same. Some people have sensitive hearing others don`t. I mean, I find the Lenoxx system loud and certainly loud enough for me to hear.

I`m satisfied and happy with it, thats all that matters to me, and I`ll certainly defend my purchase against people who`ll judge me as `cheap` or look down on me for buying a `non-big brand product`.

This item was edited on Wednesday, 8th January 2003, 14:43

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

The Lenoxx HT-500 `does` have a SCART connection. Reason could be that SCART is European in nature so the American models probably don`t have a SCART connection. The one I bought today does and I`m assuming the model was altered in production to include a SCART connection for us UK users.

It doesn`t win anything for size - its quite a wide DVD player. The hieght is about average - again, not very slim though. Speakers look nice though.

I`ve never been a follower of fashion as a kid, was never fussed about buying/wanting `Reebok` trainers, `Levi` jeans, `Sony` electronics or whatever. I guess it all boils down to how you were brought up and how `well off` you were/are. I`m more conscious now, but `budgeting` still plays a big part in my choice purchases. I`d still rather buy budget or unbranded goods - but only after researching a little. I certainly don`t jump straight in and buy something becuase its cheap. I mean, this DVD player/home theater package, I researched all day yesterday on the internet, read reviews, read forum posts, user responses. In this case the majority were satisfied or more so.

Call yourself what you want, I certainly don`t think your any kind of `snob`. Its not my position nor in my nature to judge. My main point was if your happy with the product you`ve bought, and your happy with the ammount you`ve spent - everythings cool.

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

Well I couldn`t disagree with YOU more, so I guess that makes us even.

Poppycock! Why they don`t readily admit it, the main attraction for people is price. If it weren`t, why was there such a hoo-ha about supermarkets selling Levi jeans cheap? Why did the supermarket strive to offer Levis cheap? Because they new they would sell at that price.

Besides all that, what gives you the right to tell people it is worth buying a good system. And further to that, if you`d read my reply properly you`d have noticed that I stated `IMO` (in my opinion).

So enjoy your expensive player while I enjoy mine and also go buy some DVDs, maybe some clothes, might treat myself to dinner out, go to the cinema etc. with the remaining money I`ve saved by purchasing a budget system.

RE: Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

USA Electronics company.
http://www.lenoxx.com/

Wouldn`t dream of accusing yourself or anyone as a brand snob, but in my personal opinion, I don`t agree with paying hundreds of pounds for a system! Especially when, in most cases, the components used in the cheaper brands are supplied by the companies who produce the bigger more expensive players Sony, Technics etc.

The saying `you get what you pay for` (when used in the context that more expensive items are better quality) is redundant in this day in age, especially with supermarkets playing a big part on cutting costs. Anyone paying hundreds of pounds for a system, is only paying for the brand - nothing more.

Like I said though, I`ve got no beef with people who do spend huge amounts, thats down to them. As long as I`m happy with what I`ve got, that my happiness and satisfaction far exceeds my expectations considering what I`ve spent then I`m cool. If I wasn`t happy, I`d take it back.

Peace.

Safeways Lenoxx HT-500 even better deal - £125 from today (08/01/03)

Hi.

Read on this forum about it being £149.99 normally then went down to £129.99. Well its even better value for money now as its on offer this week for only £125! Went down to my local Safeways branch at 8am this morning (wanted to make sure I didn`t miss out!) and picked mine up.

Its an awesome piece of kit especially for only £125! You get 5 sattelite speakers, a sub woofer and the DVD player which can be region hacked by:

- open drawer
- press `language` once
- press `return` three times
- select 0 for multi region

And it works fine. Tried one of my region 1 DVD`s (xXx if your interested) and it works fine. Plays RCE fine. Dolby Digital 5.1 AND it plays DTS aswell! This is not advertised though, but it seems to work!

Anyway, the Milton Keynes branch of Safeways had a huge stack of them so if your looking for one and can`t find it - try there (if your nearby!)

A very satisfied customer :o)