Info and forum posts by 'Victor Ashe'

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Doesn`t look that far away to me..

It`s the furthest building away from 1 & 2 by your picture and as 1 & 2 are..er..were massive the plan is really quite deceptive. I believe neighbouring Building 6 is still standing.

Powering off. Back on when the cockerall wakes me up. Night all.

This item was edited on Monday, 19th February 2007, 22:32

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So when the towers came down, right next door, none of the debris struck that building?

WTC7 isn`t right next door or you would have a point. It is owned by Larry Silverstein and that is very relevant if you youtube "Terrorstorm" by Alex Jones.
Alex Jones goes to New York to give you the scale of the WTC complex.
WTC7 is really quite some distance away.

Must put my P.C. to rest for tonight. The diesel generator powering it tends to disturb our chickens at night causing them to lay substandard eggs.
At least I am safe from the illuminati here in the back of nowhere.


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This item was edited on Monday, 19th February 2007, 22:20

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"but of course on the first day, the bombs went off, which may well have had something to do with the lack of footage.

You didn`t read it well. The Police said there was no video footage due to faulty CCTV. Then admitted there was but lost it. Nothing to do with bombs at all.

The rest is ad hominem attacks that only do justice to my version of reality. I wont respond in kind.

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er..the videos that exist (of more than one (alleged) bomber) have been in the public domain for quite some time, or did you miss the news, Ja...er..Victor

I saw one outside the train station Alan. Not inside.

Very easy to fake a still image.

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And the odds that an exercise in real time occuring at the very same stations at the very same time on 7/7 are rather high.

Obviously this figure is up for conjecture but when you consider the BBC last night stated that a military exercise involving planes being hijacked at the very same time into the very same buildings "just happened to be" occuring on 9/11 at 9am in the morning, you have to yourself does this help mask the truth if something goes terribly wrong?
Does it add plausible deniabilty for Cheney who was in the bunker commanding this exercise?
Of couse it does.

3,000+ U.S. soldiers dead. 650,000 Iraqis dead. All known to be on the lie of WMDs put forward as the justification.

Whats 3,000 U.S. low-level office staff and 50 or so British workers mean to scum like Bush and Blair.

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Can you elaborate as to how 7/7 is like Diana`s crash? Other than the bombers weren`t wearing seatbelts either...

The transport CCTV cameras turned off one hour before Diana`s car crash (along with the police radio and adjacent offices).
They turned on again (as if by magic) one hour after the crash.
This had never happened before in the 4 years the cameras were installed.
Other witnesses complained the cameras in the tunnel were strangely all facing the wall that very morning.

The mathematical odds of such a fault happening are then: 24/2 x 365 x 4 to 1 i.e. 17520 to 1.
Pretty darn unlucky.

What are the odds that there were is no footage at all of the alleged 7/7 bomber on the underground or bus.

PC Plod lost the videos? LOL

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Remind me why Building 7 was destroyed.

Building 7 was built to act as a command centre for any terrorist attack on the twin towers.
It housed the CIA and Mayor Juliani`s office, amongst others.
It was specially reinforced to protect it from terrorist attack which makes it even more surprising it collapsed in such a fashion, i.e. because of fire.
Remember, nothing hit WTC7.
In the US, like here, Terrorism and anti-terrorism are one of the same, unfortunately.

Look up "terrorism" in an encyclopaedia before 1930 (Webster`s etc). It will be defined as a covert action created by government to keep the citizens under control.

It is very likely then that the attacks were coordinated from WTC7.

I noted the BBC refused to talk about the crimp in the middle of WTC7 at the beginning of the collapse. Even starting the clip a tad early as to make it hard to notice the effect.

A huge insurance claim was put on all of Larry Silverstein`s buildings just prior to 9/11. He was the secret owner for the Rockerfellas. It is they who run America and wisely took control of the whitewash investigation on behalf of the Liberals ensuring no one asked difficult and meaningful questions.

Nixon once stated the office of President of the United States is only there so a Rockerfella can put his man in power. I think that sums up the USA.

Also the BBC made mention that no one died in WT7`s collapse.

At least one Secret Service guy lost his life and police ran for their lives when WTC7 came down. No one told them!
Now many are ill (70% of the Ground Zero workers) they feel less inclined to cover-up what really happened. The threats by government agencies to "shut up" don`t work when you`re dying.

WTC7 Demolition Page

This item was edited on Monday, 19th February 2007, 21:16

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Ever seen a controlled demolition were the explosions started at the top?

The first explosions for the main twin towers started in the basement at the precise instant the plane struck the tower.
So say all those on the ground floors. Interviews all ignored my the media networks because they destroyed the official lie.

There be gold down there in them basements.

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I thought that all buildings over a certain height were built with explosives in them so that they could be imploded through controlled demolition if they were in danger of collapsing onto surrounding areas.

The official version of 9/11 states that all three buildings were brought down by fire.
Building 7 is the smoking gun.
Police are now coming forward stating they heard the explosives going off in all three buildings and even the preceeding countdown for WTC Building 7.
That prick from Popular Mechanics was such a stooge.

Homeland Security Chertoff put his cousin in charge of Popular Mechanics, while at the same time sacking much of the staff to bring in new talent (spooks) soon after 9/11, after Engineering magazines poured scorn on WTC7`s surprise collapse.
What I believe you heard David was spiked propaganda.
There is no way explosive charges could have been planted in WTC 7 unless the operation was carried out before the attacks.
Expert demolition men state it would take weeks to plan such an operation.
The bombs built-in to the pillars theory sounds like a last-ditch, desperate attempt to maintain the farce of the official story.

Would you like to go to work in such a building? Not I.

This item was edited on Monday, 19th February 2007, 20:27

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So it doesn`t actually state they were Jewish, there were only two of them, neither of them knew the sender and they didn`t actually work in WTC.

Interesting that I should misremember the full details from 5+ years ago.
I`m only human. :)
But even more interesting that someone (unidentified) knew of the impending attacks.
This isn`t really news as quite a lot of people knew.

The FBI/CIA/NSA all would have known the full details of 9/11 if only George W. Bush hadn`t signed document w199i threatening FBI agents with imprisonment if they looked on computers owned by Al Qaeda suspects.

Channel 4 news recently broke the story that if only the FBI had been able to gain access to these computers 9/11 would have been thwarted.
Channel 4 did not mention w199i nor laid any blame at Bush`s door, because, lets face it, they are nothing but gatekeepers of the left.

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There weren`t 19 hijackers on 9/11 unless you can name them.
The BBC has found eight of the alleged hijackers alive and well, while the FBI still has these patsies named as part of the offical story.
This is positive proof that the US government is lying to us or they would clear these innocent men.

7/7 is yet another cover up of the facts. The Metroploitan Police initially told us that no CCTV was working on the underground and bombed bus.
After the London Transport/Underground went public that their equipment was in perfect working order, the police issued a statement that they had lost all the videos.
All of this nonsense was played down by the media as it was strikingly similar to Princess Diana`s

Police aren`t supposed to lie Si. But when they lie as part of an investigation it is nothing less than criminal.

I would like to honour the greatest 9/11 researcher who managed to gain the most significant inside-testimony from high-level sources in the Pentagon.
I know he is very ill at the moment, with his organs shutting down, so get well soon ex-cop Michael C. Ruppert.
They dont need to kill people while the media networks are all owned by their front men.
But sometimes, just sometimes the good die young.

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I think I should keep this short... ;)

BBC Hit-Piece debunked on the only web site that really matters.

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I just knew if I put "Loose Change" in the heading a quick Google and along "they" would come.

I haven`t even seen Loose Change. Didn`t need to. Got Loose Change 2 ready for viewing.
May review it here if I get the time.
Regardless of Loose Change, the 911Truth movement had already secured the case for an inside job, and long before Mr Avery (The Producer) came onto the scene. Trouble is you will NEVER see it portrayed on our TV networks. It is too damning.

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Basically that he would not want to take conspiracy theories away from them as they are frightened people who need "meaning" in something that was so incomprehensible, so terrible, so sad and so "meaningless."

That was just the BBC playing its usual patronising card. Which admittedly they do so well.
You would flourish at the BBC Bastavia. They`ve had two purges of thought-provoking journalists over the last 20 years. And they sure love "diversity". ;)
The BBC usually links 911Truthers to holocaust deniers and terrorists but they know those scallywag tactics are wearing a bit thin now.

The plane that rammed into the Pennsylvanian ground (Flight 93) was not so compacted as the BBC portrayed. The FBI managed to recover ALL of the bodies on the flight manifest and DNA analysis showed no Arab blood in any of them.
Problem for the official storytellers was the miraculously found half-burnt paper passport showing the alleged Arab hijacker`s face. Another cock-up in the official story.
No mention of that by the MI5 controlled BBC.

Another sickening twisting of the facts came from the accusation that Jews were warned in advance of the attack, solely due to an article on an Arab web site that 4000 Jews worked in the WTC.
This was BBC bulls*** at its blinding best.
The actual story was that the Jews who worked in the WTC went public on internet radio broadcasts stating their bosses at the Israeli company Odigo has paged them not to turn up to work that morning. I heard a live interview myself soon after 9/11.

BBC just twists every fact to kill the story dead. It will fool the fools.

This item was edited on Monday, 19th February 2007, 14:16

RE: "Loose Change" - Conspiracy Theories -BBC2 Programme

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Yes because as *everybody* knows the BBC is notoriously pro-American. Oh yes indeed.

Not pro-American just s*** scared they`ll boycott BBC exports. Or return the favour with 7/7 conspiracy theories. ;)

RE: "Loose Change" - Conspiracy Theories -BBC2 Programme

I was really looking forward to see a genuine BBC documentary on this most vital hot topic
Obviously due to lucrative financial considerations (keeping the Yanks happy) the BBC bottled it at the last minute and instead aired the much publicised US-friendly, second version.

Not for the first time the persuers of truth have already debunked the riduculous hit-piece before it was aired.

Shame on you BBC.