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Spain has just gone over to a partial NO SMOKING ban & as I predicted most places still allow smoking. There is only one way & that is a TOTAL BAN.


"Allowing small bars and restaurants to choose whether to be smoking or non-smoking establishments has resulted in little joy for non-smokers as finding a smoke-free (zona libre de humos) bar is an almost impossible task."

MAJORITY IN FAVOUR

"Over 70 per cent of the population are in favour of the new law, including some smokers, although the majority of them regard it as 'far too restrictive' and one in every five (two million smokers) say they will light up regardless of the penalty threat."

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This item was edited on Thursday, 5th January 2006, 15:36

Really I`ve got to say that after reading what the policy is it seems fair enough. Surely there`s room in this world for people who smoke and people who don`t? Having both smoking and non-smoking establishments seems like an ideal solution to me. Make sure that it`s enforced properly and everybody should be able to have a drink/meal in the environment that they prefer.

As far as it being an impossible task to find a non-smoking place, I don`t think it`ll stay like that for long - the law`s only been in place for a few days. As with anything, if there`s an economic demand for places to eat and drink without smoke then they`ll soon start cropping up, presumably eventually outnumbering the smoking places as time goes on.

With regard to smoking, if it was being invented today, do you honestly think anybody would allow it to be legalised?

If people wish to continue smoking, that is fine by me, but should I be subjected to the stink and air pollution just because they do?

Why shouldn`t everywhere be non-smoking (even outside it blows into my face and stinks out my hair), and the smokers go into special smoking establishments?

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I have no problems with it per se but don`t want someone doing it whilst I am eating a meal, having a drink or walking into a public building!

I am a smoker but i totally agree with you wossname when you mentioned having a meal,i can`t stand it when anybody smokes in the same room as i`m eating in.




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One reason why a partial ban on smoking will never work.

If you take a group of youngsters going to a pub & / or nightclub & half smoke & the other half don`t, we all know they will end up in the Smoking bar. The non smokers would be or feel intimidated into going into the Smoking bar. The smokers by there addiction, lack of thought for others etc would almost certainly not go to a non smoking bar.The non smokers will have to put on a brave face as they can`t show they`re afraid of a `little passive smoke` that`s the nature of most people & when your young you don`t think it will happen to you.To proove that point look at the smokers in restaurant`s always light up when they`ve finished eating with no thought for those around them who may have just started there meal, yet they don`t have they`re smoke around them whilst eating, this happens to us week after week.

The non smoking pubs would just go bust. When you have the horrendous taxes on pubs & clubs etc it`s impossible to turn away business.

A total ban is the ONLY way forward.

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To proove that point look at the smokers in restaurant`s always light up when they`ve finished eating with no thought for those around them who may have just started there meal, yet they don`t have they`re smoke around them whilst eating, this happens to us week after week

Thats a harsh statement Paull,so what you`re saying is that all smokers are the same.
Just for the record if i go out for a meal with friends (smokers),i DO NOT light up until everybody has finished eating and if i`m out with non smoker friends i`ll join them on a non smoking table and go without a smoke.

Forgive my rant but i`m sick of people assuming that smokers are all the same.



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Crikey, i didn`t realise they were trying to ban not smoking :o I`ll have to start saving up to fund my habit before i get in trouble ;)



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Just for the record if i go out for a meal with friends (smokers),i DO NOT light up until everybody has finished eating

even the people at the next table?

i`m sorry but smokling should be banned where ever food is served, we`ve been out for a meal, asked for a NON SMOKING table, and was seated in the nonsmoking area, but 5` away was a smoking area, with the smoke and smell drifting over to us, one guy as soon as he sat down lit-up when his starter came he lit up, we asked to move, and was told there was no where to move to, so we paid for our starter and left.

BUT on our way past this guy, i happened to let a silent one go next to him, which he found disgusting, WHY what i did is a natural thing to do, we ALL do it, so what is the difference to him smokeing and nobody minding, but breaking wind next to him...

and as somebody else said, you go out with a group of friends some smoke some don`t the WHOLE group has to go in the smoking section to please the drug addicts (yes it is a drug)

i have friends who smoke, but when ever we go out, they either go to the no smoking, or they sit on there own in the smoking section, same as when they visit me, i don`t care if it`s pouring down with rain, and blowing a gale, if they want to smoke then they stand in the garden with the door shut to have a smoke, i don`t want the smell in my home.