Page 1 of ADL528 - Forced PAL 50?

Hi.

Hope someone can help me out here:

I bought my DVD player in `99 - a Philips 730 Region 2. Connected it to my Philips 28pw 6332C TV via SCART, and all worked well. Until I decided to buy some Region 1 disks. Managed to alter the region coding fine, but noticed that NTSC discs would only play in B&W. So, knowing that my TV wasn`t able to play the NTSC format, I bought an analogue NTSC-PAL converter (£50-ish), thinking this would solve the problem.

Has it buffalo! The converter works fine with Region 0 discs, but whenever I change the player to region 2 (or 0), the pic is in B&W again, even when fed through the converter.

Okay - with me so far? Not bored by my ramblings? (Happy Christmas by the way) Right then: Decided I can`t afford to buy another multi-standard TV within the next two years or so (besides, the Philips TV I have now set me back £900 around 4 yrs ago and is, with PAL, pretty decent), so, after reading tons of things online, decided to buy a really cheap, multi-region PAL-output-on-NTSC-films DVD player (heck of a nightmare with that on GOOGLE, I`ll tell ya). Saw a couple for £300+, but then saw one for £119. Called up the Customer Services, and was told that yes, the DVD would play NTSC films on PAL TV`s. I`m not so sure though....

The player I`ve bought is a Cyber Home ADL528 (manual region changing by remote - it`s cheaper, what can I say?) - can anyone here confirm that this will output pure PAL signals from an NTSC disc? I doubt that PAL 60 would work with the Philips 28PW6332C.

If the ADL won`t work, can I get a bargain multi-region one that does? And if so - where??? As long as the quality is equal to my Philips 730, I`m not that bothered;-)

PLEASE HELP! I have until Tues before my order gets processed, so any help would be sooo welcome.........

x

Well, the predecessor, the 512 converts NTSC to PAL, so I think you will be fine.
You`re not buying from SCAN, are you? I think you`ll find that you could walk into a WHSmith or Richer Sounds and get one of these players.
Look here for info re 528, plus latest firmware upgrades etc http://www.cyberhome-help.de/tadl528_english.php4 - in fact on one of the screenshots on this page it shows the menu with video system¦pal (which is what you want to do), so you`ll be fine. Also gives the hack to alter to multiregion.

This item was edited on Saturday, 29th December 2001, 07:40

Thanks a lot for your reply Richard - I had a look at the site you posted, and it seems that it should work fine. Till I get a whole new system in `03 that is.....;-)

May be a silly question, but you do have your DVD connected to the RGB input on your TV and the out put of the player set to RGB dont you?

Cause if you dont, then you would get a Black N White image even on most TV`s that do support NTSC

Not a silly question at all - one that`s been driving me insane over the past few days!

The tv and dvd are connected via a scart lead. There is no option on the player to output RGB through the menu, nor to input RGB in the TV.

I`ve tried using 3 phono leads to connect the equipment - but is this an RGB connection?

Any help much appreciated

As I am not to sure if your player can send an RGB output or not I did a little digging with hotbot and found this info,

"The DVD player has not been properly connected to the tv. To avoid this problem the DVD player should be connected to the first SCART not the second SCART. The second SCART connection usually does not support RGB and that`s the reason your picture is in black and white. The last possibility is that the DVD player`s output is not set to RGB. It is still set to S-Video"

Now while most TVs do use Scart 1 for RGB there are some that dont support it at all, and those that use another socket for it.

the 3 phoneo leads are most likly audio left, right and comp video. Not a RGB connection

Thanks again.

Swapped the scart connections on the TV and - hey bloomin` presto - colour signal on region 0 disc (thus making that £50 converter null and void!!) BUT, when I convert the DVD player to region 1, the pic shows in a blue-tinged B&W. Feeding the signal through the converter enables a completely B&W instead.

Does this mean the TV cannot accept pal 50/60? (I`m using a gold plated scart lead for the connection (and 3 phono when using with the converter)Or is the problem to do with the DVD player? If it can output an NTSC signal to play the region 0 disc, then why can`t it do the same for region 1??

My head`s starting to hurt!!!;-)

This item was edited on Sunday, 30th December 2001, 14:58

Hello mezuk,

I bought the ADL528 for my son and tested it on a cheapy Bush TV with a single SCART socket.

It output colour from an NTSC region 1 DVD fine.

There were other niggly problems (low sound quality and constant subtitles) but they went away with some tweeking using the remote control and the setup menu (change audio from dolby 5.1 to ch.2 and set the disc subtitles to Zulu!). See also...

http://forum.cyberhome-help.de/viewforum.php?forum=6&start=50

Hope this helps.

Norman.

don`t bother with the cyberhome, get a dansai

it has a NTSC/PAL button on the remote which can be switched on the fly.

the cyberhome is bad when converting NTSC to PAL, tested this with `Nighmare Before Xmas` R1, jerky horrible playback (but then the player was poor generally), the dansai jerks slightly when default set-up, just hit that button and hey presto, smooth as a baby`s bum... :)

differences between NTSC/PAL

29.997/25 fps (player/tv)
50/60 Hz (tv)
575(?)/625 lines (tv)

most NTSC playback systems use a PAL60 output

if it`s the telly - it could be tough, i have the newer 28PW6006 (i`ll stop there though..........)

my old tv had the blue tinged b/w you describe that is definitely PAL60 on a PAL50 tv, but fortunately that had a PAL60 option, it is a mitsubishi ct21astx (best tube i`ve ever seen on a tv, full stop. period.)

i still have that mitsi - pity it`s only a 21" 4:3.............

regards

w

This item was edited on Saturday, 5th January 2002, 09:44