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I recently purchased Gone in sixty seconds on R1 from play247 to find that it froze on the seen where Nicholous Cage and Angelina Jolie steal the Lamborghini diablo whilst watching the other couple get it on.
I am using a Pioneer DV535 to play the dvd which i bought from Upgrade Heaven which uses the sprinter excel upgrade.The disc will play smoothly through the seen about 40% of the time although it doesnt solve the problem of the other 60% i can however scan forward a few frames and the disc resume normal play which is weird.I know it is NOT the layer transition and it happens in the middle of the chapter.The layer transition happens further on in the film

Do you think its a disc fault, player fault or could it be the multiregion upgrade cauing the problem ??????

Any reply will be greatly appreciated as im begining to get paronoid that it is a player fault,all my other disc work perfect including lots of titles which seem to have problems on other machines

This item was edited on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 22:45

"I know it is NOT a layer transition and it happens in the middle of the chapter."

I know for a fact, that the layer transition can happen ANYWHERE on the DVD, no matter wether it is in the middle of the chapter or not. It will change layers whenever it needs to.
Best thing to do is to try it on someone else`s machine to prove this fact.


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well tried it on a pioneer 525 asian model (region 3) with a multiregion upgrade and it works fine but still it could be the disc is still faulty right or is it my player after all????? As players do vary in the way they handle error correction and discs in general dont they!!!
as i say my player handles every single disc ive thrown at it, does anyone else have a pioneer 535 and managed to find this problem?

If anyone else can shed some light on this matter please do
Thanks Matt

This item was edited on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 22:51

well different players do handle the layer change differently and it also depends on the disc too! if all other DVD`s work fine then i would say that the way that particular is encoded in a way that ur player has a problem with.... But im no expert, just an idea!!!

It is not freezing on the layer transition that is later on in the film its freezing in the middle of a chapter,and at a specific point every time thats why i suggested it was a disc fault i know the film does not use layer branching tecniques also.So it is nothing to do with the layer transition at all or layer branching for that matter so what exactly is it thats causing it to freeze

any ideas experts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kenny, how do you know that the disc isn`t multi layered, or even when the disc layer changes?

What you`re describing IS a bad layer change, like the recent bad batch of "Perfect Storm" R2`s.

Look at the disc under a strong light (the playback side)
See if you can see micro thin circles anywhere on the disc.
On Perfect Storm (bad ones) you can see two circles, about 2 cm apart near the centre third of the disc.
Hope it helps mate, but if not, try another machine. Although my Per. Storm was a bad one, the Thomson Combi. in my store still managed to play it!!

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The disc is multilayered and i know where the layer transition is due to the fact i played it on a friends machine.I find your point about the bad authoring of the disc very intreguing though .I will look into your suggestion jimbo of the micro thin circles causing this strange freezing problem

thanks once again kenny

This item was edited on Monday, 8th January 2001, 20:54