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Spiky subject, I know, but after watching Ghostbusters 2 on Ch4 yesterday (where Bill Murray was heard to say S*** at 6.05pm) isn`t it time some `curse words` were re-classed?

Time was, years ago, Crap was a harsh word, but that`s now commonplace during the day, (normally during the Simpsons, Bart was heard to utter `testicles` only last week). And I can`t help but think `Merde` is running along the same lines.

Of course, the 2 main words should never be heard or seen until after the watershed...

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On one of those Ch4 Idents yesterday, Sharon Osbourne said "S***", and that was mid afternoon. It actually shocked me :o to hear it at that time of day (and I swear like buggery! :D )

I hope they don`t reclassify swearing, or they would have to come up with new offensive words to fill the voids. May I suggest "Futt Bucker"?

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`Testicles` isn`t really a swear word though, is it? I would have been more offended/surprised if he`d said `bollocks` or `balls`.

I don`t see the big problem with `c***` or `f***`, but they shouldn`t be allowed before 9pm. As Arthur Smith said on Grumpy Old Men, bad language is saying things like "Know what I mean?" and "Innit". A well timed swear word can be comedy gold - "bollocks to you, you twat!".

I`d just like to apologise to the mods, I suppose it would be inevitable that a thread such as this would become a mecca for profanity, but I`ll ask all further contibutors to exercise a little caution with their posts.

There is a warning at the top of the page about distateful language, and I`d hate what I hoped would be a mature conversation about what is modernly assumed to be bad language, to degrade into post after post of swear words, and ineviately be deleted.

All those long words on a hangover, too...

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I knew I came in here for something else..

On the subject of the stronger words, I consider myself to be a man of the word, but I can`t help but flinch a little every time the `C` word is used. It`s even worse when it`s used in general conversation. I work in a builder`s yard, so the word is often thrown in with reference to ethnic minorities too, which makes me feel nauseous.

As a word, it`s completely unnecessary and, I feel, violently profane. Even in films of a `top shelf` nature it seems out of place.

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This item was edited on Sunday, 28th March 2004, 13:31

In another episode of the Simpsons, Homer thanks Patti & Selma for helping choose Marge a gift and he said. "You slags are alright" - Now that did shock me! :o

"This is Nucking Futs!" - Dickie Roberts.

As a word, it`s completely unnecessary

Surely this could be said about any word - but that doesn`t mean people shouldn`t use it. It is meant to be an offensive word, and obviously it worked!

I know a lot of woman don`t like the word and that is their perogative not to use it, but they are more than happy to use slang words for male genitalia.**

Having said that, there is a time and a place for such words. I expect swearing in bars, amongst groups of like minded friends and in films (12 and above), but I detest swearing on buses, shops and the work place.

And look, I didn;t use a single bad word in this whole post! :p

** Just realised that it looks like I implied that Stantz is a lady. Sorry. :)

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The "you slags are alright" episode was on yesterday or on Friday - nearly fell off my chair!

Yeah it used to be shocking to hear "crap" - the first time I heard it was Greg on "Home and Away" and I was *stunned* (I was also about nine though!:))

I still don`t think there should be a lot of swearing before 9pm, and similarly I don`t think the first word in a programme beginning at 9pm should be "f*ck" just because it`s allowed. It`s good to have decent dialogue in a programme or film and sometimes swearing makes the writers a bit lazy, and it spoils it if every other word is a swearword - and it puts people off.

I don`t think that swearing on TV *really* teaches school-age kids any new curse words - that`s what playgrounds and older friends are for. Though when I was about three I got a smacked bum for calling my mum a silly cow when I copied it off "Little and Large" or something. :D

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Just been to see `Welcome to the Jungle` at my local and 3 kids, all about 12 were sat beside us. Apart from that I had to ask them to stop talking 3 times, when they did talk, every second word was cursing.

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You`re bang on there, gurly. If fact, I`m sure kids these days could teach us adults a few choice new ones...

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I`ve always found the whole swearing thing quite absurd.
If you take a step back and think about it, it really is unbelievably stupid!

We came up with the language that we use to communicate, but somewhere along the line somebody decided that these 2 words in particular (that we created, and that we all know the meaning of) are "offensive", even though other words that have EXACTLY the same meaning are deemed to be acceptable.

Intercourse
Vagina

Of course, "You Intercoursing Vagina" doesn`t quite have the same ring, does it?

What a bunch of messed up, uptight screwballs we are! :/

"Arse" is used frequently in pre-watershed programmes like The Bill with alarming regularity - 10 years ago that certainly wouldn`t have happened.

I agree that the f-word and c-word are just mere words. Admittedly, the c-word sounds truly awful, but the simple fact remains both are of Anglo-Saxon origin and have been around a lot longer than any of us. The fact they are still used today is testament to the fact they simply are part of out language, whether we like it or not.

Quite why the c-word is so taboo still tickles me to this day. Yes, it is a word used in everyday bar-room conversation amongst the younger generation. However, a few friends of mine use it and then titter like children after we`ve said it, because it`s so naughty to say it (we always whisper it to each other). I took great pleasure in telling people about the time I saw it in huge pink letters written on the pavement in Shrewsbury ! I`ve had a few people take me to task about using the word, but when I mention it`s been around a very long time, they simply have no answer.

"S***" really is a totally inoffensive word - it`s no more sensational than the liberally decriminalised "crap" (used frequently in The Bill, too), or even "knackered", sprayed liberally around interviews with sports stars - remember that the origin of knacker is testicle. Similarly, the words "twat" and "berk" are slightly less-offensive (than the c-word) sweary versions of the word vagina (berk is Cockney rhyming slang - Berkhamsted or Berkshire Hunt).

I`m with Arthur - there are far more criminal uses of the English language, especially in this text-speak world we seemingly live in today, than a few well-timed swear words. I have no problems with "S***" during daytime TV.



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