Page 1 of DHSS Question about sick pay any help please?

Hi, I`m self employed and had a spell of illness lately that put me out of work for 2 weeks, 1 week of it in hospital.

I only pay the class 4 (I think it`s that) national insurance of £2.20 a week and know I can claim that back but not gonna bother for the small amount, but am I able to claim sick pay from the DHSS for these 2 weeks? Presumably I`d need a doctors note but is there anything else? And would it just be approx £40 a week?

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SSP is £14.51 per day after the first 3 days. Thats if ya PAYE not sure about self employed peeps. I always though self employed peeps had to pay there own sick pay.

I think SSP is payed by the company not the DHSS. Not 100% though.

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This item was edited on Wednesday, 17th October 2007, 09:43

Thanks Jackal, yeah just not sure how it works in this case as it`s only me. I thought same as you but someone mentioned it to me yesterday so I`ll update on this thread unless anyone else knows any more?

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I think yr NI contributions are class 2 dude.....re sick pay i havnt got a clue :)

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I thought the self employed pay both class 2 and 4 NI

Also isnt it the DSS - i mean wouldnt the DHSS be some mutated furniture company?? :-D


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I thought the self employed pay both class 2 and 4 NI

Yup Fowler and Neliboys are right. The £2.20 your paying is Class 2.

Assuming you just have one self employment and is fairly straightforward etc. you will then pay 8% Class 4 National Insurance on your profits above £5,225 for the current tax year.

You can`t get Statutory Sick Pay if your self employed but I "think" when your self employed you get incapacity benefit instead, but unsure if you could for two weeks? Worth having a look into that.

On a side note that`s a bit of a joke:

Class 4 National Insurance contributions don`t count towards your state pension entitlement.

We had a client who was self employed, but then incorporated in October a few years back. So obviously he stopped paying his Class 2 contributions of £2.10 per week (or whatever the rate was back then).

Then last year he`s had a notice from the Department of Work and Pensions that he will have a shortfall in the number of "qualifying years" as the year in which he finished he did not make contributions for the full year so it did not count as a "qualifying year".

Now we argued that during that tax year he paid around £2000 in Class 4 National Insurance because he had the profits of his business up to cessation in October which were assessed, but they don`t count towards the state pension.

So because he never paid Class 2 contributions for 6months which would amount to about to about £50, it wouldn`t count, although a tax payer who only paid the Class 2 for the whole year and no Class 4 (so £109.20), would be more entitled to the full state pension.

Although it`s less relevent now as it`s either gone through or is going through that the number of "qualifying years" you needed to get a full state pension is down to around 28years, or something like that, from around 44years (provided you retiring after December 2011 I think, but again, don`t hold me to it).



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This item was edited on Wednesday, 17th October 2007, 21:37

Thanks again for your help guys, I always get the class 2 and 4 mixed up, and cheers 1mills I will look into it with them.

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Also isnt it the DSS - i mean wouldnt the DHSS be some mutated furniture company??

It`s DWP now, may well be changed to somethign else at some later date though...

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You may be entitled to Incapacity Benefit .....but you wont get anything for the first three days of sickness (waiting days).