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Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

Hot Honda (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 00:12

I`ll try and be succint.
1) Brand new DVD 750s (V4).

2) 8year old Mitusbishi CT29B4 STX TV - This has 2 types of NTSC, PAL, PAL 60R & Secam inputs (it does everything) -

3) Connections are Gold 21 wire scart.

4) Input AV1 is described as compsite & RGB. (AV2 is described as compostite only

So, here`s my question. I`m watching the DVD thinking "wonder what the difference between composite and RGB looks like ?" - so i pick up my remote to the DVD and in the set-up, turn RGB off. What i expected was a worse picture.

What happened, is that the picture went Black and white - confused.

5) I`ve tried every combination of R1 / R2 disc, had the DVD set up as PAL / PAL60 / NTSC and likewise have adjusted the tv in the same way.

The only way I get colour is to have the DVD set to RGB.

So, is this normal, or am I subtly misunderstanding how my DVD works (it could of course be my TV not really being RGB, but the manual is v. specific)

THANKS if you can shed light on this !

RE: Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

clayts (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 00:34

No, I think your telly is RGB too, so don`t worry about it.

You don`t want to be meddling with composite video - lowest of the low picture quality wise.

What options do you have on your set up menu - presumably you can configure the SCART (I take it to RGB, Composite, and probably S-video as well, yes?). Is there also an option to change the video output signal (i.e. S-Video/SCART/Composite) ?

It may be the case that you altered the output signal to Composite (so the Wharfey thinks it`s sending a signal NOT via the SCART but via the old fashioned way - i.e. phono-phono lead from back of your 750 to the front, pull-down flap on your telly), and not the SCART option

Sorry if this sounds vague, I`m going by what my player, the Encore, does. This also results in a black and white picture if I alter the wrong menu option (done it a few times in error !)

RE: Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

Hot Honda (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 00:56

Thks 4 speedy reply - however, it`s simpler than perhaps I explained..

* The DVD has only one option in it`s set-up. "RGB on / off"
* My TV`s AV1 input is (according to the manual) RGB compatible.
* I can`t (via the remote) change the input of the TV, only the signal type (NTSC / PAL / SECAM etc).

So just to refresh. Everything on "AUTO", with R1 / R2, then FINE. When I set "RGB = OFF" on the DVD, then it all goes B/W no matter what I do.

I have a sneaky feeling .......

RE: Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

clayts (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 01:01

Oh hang on - I know what it is !!

Your telly still expects an RGB signal - I bet if you change your TV configuration on that AV socket (i.e. switch off the RGB) then it`ll work.

That`s because the telly wants an RGB picture, but all it`s getting is a composite signal from the 750.

I think...

RE: Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

Hot Honda (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 01:14

You may have hit a rich seam - except....

* there is no way for me to "turn of" the RGB input to my AV1 input.

And, all i suppose I was asking when experimenting was "Am i now watching DVD with an RGB input in all it`s glory" - It`s huge curiosity. Frankly, I suspect that the Mitsubisi may have a quasi RGB input ( I used to work for them for 8 years but not in TV`s) so I guess that all i need to do is get on the blower to the R&D chaps in Hatfield and pop them the question about the state of my TV to accept RGB

Wouldn`t it be a shame if it wasn`t RGB, and I was forced to go out and by a spanking new widescreen plasma......

So perhaps it`s the TV after all

BTW, for my job, I recently oversaw the re-building of our co. demo room and in amongst the ££££££ i spent, I found a space in the budget for a brand new 50" Pioneer plasma It`s marvellous - but the bracket to transport it costs £450 !...

RE: Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

clayts (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 01:19

Hmm wonder whether the Wharfedale will do the same thing on that !!!!

Don`t worry mate, I won`t go to bed tonite fretting about it. As you say, tho`, it`s nice to know why these weird things happen. Thanks for testing my (limited) brain power !

Did you work in Hatfield then ? I used to live in St Albans

RE: Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

Hot Honda (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 01:39

No Hatfield was a commute from home town in sunny Rushden (where that ? he asks)....

No sweat & thanks for staying awake. Time to sleep, and hope that other people rise to the "challenge" with your enthusiasm.

RE: Challenge - Black and White picture on my DVD 750S

clayts (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 7th January 2001, 01:56

Actually I know where Rushden is - it`s near Diamonds, isn`t it ?

Irthlingborough - round there, yeah ?

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