Page 1 of dvd on 4:3 (tosh sd330)

anyone know a dvd that works on 4:3 tv?

just bought philips dvd625 with zoom - but it doesn`t enlarge the 16:9
window (just the image inside it) - bottomline it cant fill the screen
(unless i put the dvd in 16:9 mode - then it stretches the picture
[vertically] - weird)

even weirder - when the 625 is in any zoom mode - it leaves the mode indicator on screen - of course i`m taking it back tomorrow


anyone know a dvd that will fill 4:3 screen? without distorting the aspect ratio
(just lose the edges) - had a philips dvd550vr that did it perfectly

i know the tosh sd330 also has zoom - but can it fill a 3:4 frame ?

The question is, why the hell would you want it to? It defeats the purpose of having DVDs in the proper aspect ratio in the first place...

A lot pf players will either only Zoom on a still image,or will leave the icon on.Any dvd player you get will need to be set on 4:3 Pan and Scan.But I only know 1 disc which auto enlarges the image(and as its a 2.35:1 film,it only enlarges to 1.85:1)and thats You Only Live Twice on Region 2.Other 007 or MGM discs may do the same.But its a feature that few would ever use.A lot of Region 1 discs have a wide and full version on the same disc,but by no means enough for your requirement.
What you need is a Tesco Dansai player.These all have a Zoom feature that stays on for as long as you want with no icon.Its a variable zoom,and one push will make a 1.85:1 film fill your 4:3 screen,or turn a 2.35:1 film into a 1.85:1 image.The picture is perfect in this mode,but if you zoom in any closer you will have a poor picture.
After all that,the best idea is to go and get a 16:9 set and watch all your discs properly

thanx for the reply - but all the zoom features you`ve mention change the ratio

i was looking for a dvd that will simply enlarge the 16:9 picture & crop it, till it fills the 4:3 frame

doesn`t seem such a big deal - had a philips DVD550VR which did this fine, but had other querks - if it` such rare feature maybe i`ll just get it back and put up with the querks

thanx anyhow

I assume you`re the same bloke who posted a similar post in UMD? Did the answers in there not convince you of the benefits of widescreen? What`s more, you contradict yourself between the two forums. In UMD you claim that zooming doesn`t alter the AR, but in here you say it does???

Also, I don`t know where you bought the player, but if it`s somewhere that only takes things back if faulty you won`t be able to return it. The icon on the screen is meant to be there. It is not a fault. The zoom function on any player is meant to enable the viewer to pick out detail in an image, not to view some kind of half-arsed pan and scan version of a film.

This item was edited on Tuesday, 26th August 2003, 00:44

I know just the piece of hardware that will solve this problem. A VHS Player. Here you will get nice professional Pan & Scam versions and you won`t have to bother with zooms. Why buy DVDs when you can buy good old grainy VHS?

I suggest if you want to watch pan & scan movies you ditch the DVD player and watch them on VHS instead - nearly all VHS movies have been butchered into the 4:3 format.
Why not visit this site :

http://www.widescreen.org/index.shtml

and join the majority of us in appreciating movies the way the director intended - even on a 4:3 screen

Pete

Changing a wide film into 4:3,which is what you want,IS changing the ratio.How can you take a wide film and turn it into 4:3 without changing it?If you got a dvd player which auto enlarged it,what would it be doing?Changing the ratio-thats what.But if you insist on wanting 4:3 versions of films then dvd is not for you.The Dansai will do what you need.If thats not good enough you will have to return to vhs until you get a 16:9 tv

Its not just him wanting 4:3 aspect ratio..

I think we both just want the option to have it view dvds fullscreen and not be limited to a thin viewing frame of the film on NON WIDESCREEN televisions....

Just like dvd players on computers can easily do this on either dvd power or windvd (one of them)

And when we upgrade to a widescreen tv then we will use the 16.9 or the 1.21:3 (or whatever some dvds say on the box as anamorphic)

just untill that time we wish to view dvds as best we can on normal tvs thats all..

So we want to know what dvd players can do this, as i might be returning for a refund the pacific 1002 cos it doesnt do this and volume is low (have to turn tv right up for normal sounding of a film) plus its retro lookin.... And was lookin at gettin the toshiba SD330 Multiregion version hoping it does exactly (above)

TBH, I don`t see why DVD players shouldn`t provide a `centre cut out` mode (similar to the 4:3 mode on Sky digiboxes) for those who want it. Not everyone is a film buff - if some people prefer to see films chopped up, flipped, or even turned upside down, why not cater for them? After all, widescreen TV owners are able to do horrendous things (stretch, crop, distort) with material that was originally in the 4:3 ratio, according to preference.

I know of one or two players which can do a true centre cut out (e.g. Samsung DVD-M series), but it isn`t a common feature.

Mike