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Past Eltax subwoofers?

Upya (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Tuesday, 23rd October 2001, 17:51

Does anyone know where I may find a list of subwoofers made by Eltax either now or in the past.

This may seem like a strange request, but I phoned my local Panasonic/Technics shop today to enquire about buying a Sub and they told me they have 1 ex-display model for sale at £50.

They said it was an Eltax, but were very vague about what model it was, I didn`t push for this as it was 5 mins before closing and thought it was nice of them to tell me about it in the first place.

The info I did get was that it is an Eltax, the geezer said it`s model number was eaws20 or something like that (although I did feel he was making this up as he was going along) and that he thought it was around 75 watts. He did say that it was one left over from Panasonic speaker packages they used to sell, and that they used to sell the sub for £160 (or was it £169, I forget), but as it was ex-display this one was £50.

Does anyone have any idea what Sub this is, I have looked around the net, but only seem to find the Atomic series and I don`t think that this is one of them as it is Silver and these all seem to come in black.

Also would you recommend an Eltax Sub, I haven`t really got an awful lot of money to spend on a sub and wasn`t sure if it was worth getting one or waiting a bit (although I am pretty desperate to complete my set-up).

Thanx for any advice you can give me on Eltax subs and my questions, any help will be great as I am seriously thinking about going into the shop first thing in the morning to buy this bargin (i hope!) before anyone else gets their hands on it, but really don`t want to be left with a lemon.

Cheers
Lee

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

clayts (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 24th October 2001, 00:59

Lee

That is a legitimate model number, and was the predecessor to the Atomic range (I have the Atomic A8, there is also the A10 and A12).

They`re a bit rough and ready but for £50 I`d go for it mate ! Should match up to your M5/Technics nicely.

Incidentally - http://www.eltax.dk is a useful site here ;-)

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

Upya (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Wednesday, 24th October 2001, 16:26

Cheers for that Clayts, after reading your message I decided to phone Eltax to find out some info on the EASW20 as I couldn`t find any information about it on the net.

The geezer from Eltax told me the EASW20 is basically the A8 but they repackaged it to sell as the new Atomic range and now call it the A8.

Anyways I went and bought the sub today and got an even better bargin as they gave it to me for £40 because it didn`t have a power lead (which is exactly the same as a kettle lead or so I am led to believe).

All I have to do now is work out where it should go in my already packed room and find somewhere I can download instructions for it or the A8, have you any ideas where I may be able to find these?

Cheers mate
Lee

This item was edited on Wednesday, 24th October 2001, 16:27

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

clayts (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 24th October 2001, 19:06

I can, all being well with my e-mail (it`s a bit screwy at the moment with Net in a Nutshell folding), scan you a copy of the laughable A8 instruction leaflet - should only take a few mins.

I`ll get your e-mail from the Mods Admin database - some time this evening, okay ?

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

Upya (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Wednesday, 24th October 2001, 20:10

That will be great thanx Clayts, trouble is I can`t remember if I entered an e-mail addy when I entered my details into this site.

If I haven`t let me know and I will figure out how to do it, I have looked at the change details part of this site but can`t find where to put your e-mail address so may need help (how hopeless am i?).

I have had a look at an A8 and the noticeable difference is at the rear the A8 has places to connect speakers but the easw20 doesn`t and the A8 has the speaker (not sure of the right terminology here) at the bottom and the hole (sure this has a proper name to) at the front, whereas the easw20 has the hole in the bottom and the speaker at the front.

Will this affect where I should place my sub?

Thanx for your help, I owe you so many pints already

Lee

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

steve watson (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 24th October 2001, 21:24

Lee in Windows in Newcastle they have Brand New Eltax EASW20 Sub Woofers for £79.99, this seems cheap for a sub woofer. Is this an ok buy for me with my current setup?. I have a Toshiba SD-3109B, and a Yamaha DSP-A5 Amp + Mission 77 DS Rear Speakers

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

clayts (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 25th October 2001, 00:47

Lee, I sent it to your user name @ your ISP, so hopefully you will have got it by now.

Subwoofers are non-directional, so it really doesn`t matter where you place them, although a lot of home cinema fans, myself included, tend to have it between the centre and one of the front speakers (my A8 is about 20cm away from my TV, without any ill effects.

Generally, Eltax subs have the small port (the little round hole) at the front, and the bigger round bit as a downward firing speaker. No reason to suggest your should be different.

Steve, I run the A8 with my DSPA5 and they buddy up well. The one thing you didn`t mention was your front speaker configuration - if you have half-decent front floorstanders you may not need a sub, as the Yammy sends a decent blast to them, as long as they can handle it.

If like me you have diddy little JPW Mini Monitors then the A8 is a much needed booster, even in a fairly small room - it does make a difference, definitely.

I think £80 is cheap for a sub, and as Lee states, if they`re the predecessor to the A8 in all but name that represents a good deal in my book.

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

Upya (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Thursday, 25th October 2001, 01:11

Got the scan no probs, cheers mate.

My sub does differ from the A8 as the small port is beneath and the speaker is on the front, but I don`t image this makes any difference.

I shall try both methods of connecting the sub (1-via my amp, 2-via my m5) and see if there is any discernable difference.

The only think I am still not sure of is the phase switch which you switch to 0 or 180, the instructions you sent said that the phase can be turned 180 degrees and to try both settings for preferred sound. This leaves me still a little unclear on what phase is and what turning it 180 degrees actually does. Can anyone shed any light on this?

Also can anyone suggest any audio cd`s that may be good for me to test my sub out and find my prefered settings? I haven`t had my dvd player that long so only have a limited number of dvd`s (x-men being one that I thought may be good for this purpose), but I have a large selection of audio cd`s so thought this may be a better solution.

Cheers for all your help guys
Lee

RE: Past Eltax subwoofers?

Upya (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Thursday, 25th October 2001, 01:17

Steve,

Being very new to dvd players and the alike I really couldn`t comment on how well this will fit your set-up, also I am still waiting for my phono-phono leads to arrive from beyondhifi.com (I took your advice Clayts and went for the B-tech series from these guys) so can`t yet comment on the performance of the EASW20. As soon as my leads arrive I will give it a blast and let you know what I find, hopefully it won`t be to late for you.

This being a great forum I am sure you will get lots of reply`s from people much more knowledgable then me and hopefully this will help you make your decision.

Let me know what happens

Lee

Info on Phase

RichardH (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 25th October 2001, 07:00

Phase describes basically whether you have your speakers wired up "properly".
Imagine your speaker cables - for each speaker you run a pair of wires, going red to red, black to black. Now, if you get that wrong on one of the speakers (i.e red to black, black to red), then the two speakers will be out of phase. Out of phase speakers sound slightly "odd" - hollow and "thin".
Assuming that you have your front speakers wired correctly (i.e. in phase - which you should), then when you wire up the sub, you can again select to have it in or out of phase. As far as I understand it, in some cases, the sub can sound better out of phase with the main speakers, depending on room acoustics, what the floor is made of, position of the sub, and what the weather`s like (scrub the last one).

So basically, try the sub both in and out of phase.

I have seen suggestions on how to position your sub which should amuse all the other members of your family - basically, put the sub in your normal seating position, then crawl around the floor, listening to the bass until you find the place where it sounds best. This is where you should position the sub.

HTH

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