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does anyone know if the new recorders(980 & 985) can record on dvd-r & dvd-rw format discs?

Philips are promoting their own format DVD+RW so it is highly unlikely. This format isn`t recognised by the DVD Forum, so it`s a bit like the V2000 video format all over again : Philips flying solo.

Better off sticking to the Panasonic DMRE20 or the Pioneer DVR7000 : prices are slowly falling.

Yes the Panasonic seems the best with DVD-Ram and DVD-R.

Its also the only format that you can record and watch something else on the same disc at the same time!

The cheapest I have seen it is £679.95. Anyone seen cheaper?

http://www.prcdirect.co.uk/PRC/PRC.filereader?3cc30501022373d4273fd43a3b5805e6+EN/products/DMRE20EBS

This item was edited on Sunday, 21st April 2002, 19:30

Don`t bother,
I`ve had the mis fortune of owning a DVDR1000 -It has slow updating clumsy and un-intuative control system and crappy lp modes.It was returned as it had trouble recording on it`s own DVD+rw dics and playing back some DVD singles.
Changed for Panasonic DMR-e20 which is unbelievably great! This is the future....

Hi fred7

Can you give me more info on the E20.

Will it record on any cheap DVD-R`s (I have seen some for under £2) and can you record different qualitys on these and still play them in any DVD player?
I would like to be able to back up a 90 min Hi8 tape to DVD-R, would this be possible

Any other points worth mensioning? Time slip any good? How much did you pay and where from

Thanks

+RW isn`t dead yet!

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-880122.html

"At its annual Windows Hardware Engineering Conference ( WinHEC), Microsoft plans to demonstrate software and to provide technical documentation for incorporating the DVD+RW format into its Windows operating system, according to a Microsoft Web site detailing the schedule for the conference.

"This presentation explains how support for DVD+RW in Windows has been designed to become the standard storage solution for the PC and consumer electronics environments," reads the description of a presentation planned for next week`s show. Microsoft will be adding support for DVD+RW into a future version of Windows, code-named Longhorn, according to the site."

So Windows support it and we all fall over, legs in the air ?

Fact is, Betaboy, our little standalone DVD players won`t support it : end of, surely ?

Can you give me more info on the E20.

>Will it record on any cheap DVD-R`s (I have seen some for under £2) and can you record different qualitys on these and still play them in any DVD player?

You need to use `decent` discs. Those that are detailed Generation 2 will work (I just ordered several of the unbranded Princos from bigpockets.co.uk that work quite well).

>I would like to be able to back up a 90 min Hi8 tape to DVD-R, would this be possible

Havent tried this yet but should be feasible. The DVD-RAM record option gives 1,2,4 and 6 hour recording modes so should be similar on DVD-R.

>Any other points worth mensioning? Time slip any good? How much did you pay and where from

Time slip is very neat :-)
Few niggles:
1. Doesn`t record the subtitles/teletext off air (which could be useful)
2. Discs take upto 30 seconds to be detected when the player comes on out of timer record. This means, if you use PDC for triggering, that you may miss the first 30 seconds of the program :-( (Why they didn`t check to see if a disc was in when timer recording is set and ignore the spin up check I do not know...)
3. Not multiregioned yet (though I believe someone in Nottingham is offering it for a £200 premium)

um...thats it.
Quality excellent (build and picture - even in 6 hour mode)

I got one for £699 which included 6 DVD-Ram and 3 DVD-R. It was from the website that is 8th in the list usually posted by R Sole. e.g. http://www.dvd.reviewer.co.uk/forums/thread.asp?Forum=176&Thread=92532&Type=1

(I`ve done work for them in the past so wouldn`t directly advertise).

This item was edited on Wednesday, 24th April 2002, 19:50

hi micoman,

I would concur with the views expressed by Chris W.
I haven`t actually used DVD-R discs on my players yet but am told you can record up to 6 hours on one dvd-r (unlike the Pioneer which is limited to 2 hours) and should play back on any recent dvd deck. There is a slight difference in quality between 4 and 6 hour mode so if you are archiving from Hi 8 , you should be quite happy with the 4 hour mode for transfers. I regularly record on 4 hour mode and transfer to my other deck also recording on 4 hour mode without any discernable drop in quality- no dot grain or crawl. believe me, once you`ve had this machine, you will not want to go back to VHS or any other tape medium again.

The timeslip function is astoundingly good and very useful for me, as I can check what has been recorded on the disc while it is still recording.and the editing features for camcorder footage editing are great.
If you`ve got a minidisc recorder, you`ll know what I mean, as it can do similar stuff but with video!.

I got mine from Empire direct for £729 but they throw in six 4.7gb discs and three 9.4gb discs, worth over £120. Great service, got machine in perfect condition 2 days after ordering (extra discs followed the next week) Buy one!!

This item was edited on Thursday, 25th April 2002, 01:45

Betaboy? That wasn`t fair.

The recent Pioneer CD deck now supports both SACD and DVD-audio, another format war in itself. So how can we say future standalone DVD players/recorders won`t have +RW/RAM support, especially with the richest software manufacturer on the planet now behind +RW/RAM? MS vs. Apple again. There is some time left to establish the winner, but it won`t be too long before we`ll want to ditch our `little` players and replace them with recorders.

We are bound to get more writers in our computers (HP/Philips CDRW units I understand are the biggest OEM sellers) and will want to use our unfinalised DVRW`s from computer room to living room and back. If I`ve got it right, -RW does not allow you to erase files, you have to wipe discs completely, so surely the anti-Philips ferver should go towards Pioneer`s -RW too?

Sony`s Betamax lost against JVC`s Inferior VHS system simply down to their tighter licencing, didn`t it?

So on the state of the first efforts released, are we saying the DV standard `primarily invented for only data storage`, RAM has won?

This item was edited on Thursday, 25th April 2002, 23:55