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.Just look at the first half of England & also Belgium, for starters. Just before the first goal there was a two footed tackle by one of the 3 brazilian players. Beckham jumped to avoid it or he could have had further injuries to his feet. This was one of the two footed tackles that Fifa said they wanted stopped. That should have been a free kick & possible yellow card, from this they went on to score. The second goal was a flook. Belgium have a perfectly good goal disallowed, The so called great goal for Brazil was straight at the keeper but a deflection put it in, some great goal. Now Belgium are chasing the game Brazil have an easier chance to score & do. Come on Fifa it`s not just the linesmen, LOOK at the Ref`s. To me this has spoilt the world cup.

This item was edited on Friday, 21st June 2002, 10:19

Sour grapes I think.

What about the penalty Owen got against Argentina.
Mill`s reaction today to a harmless tackle.
Beckham trying to con the ref going down in the box twice today.

There`s nothing worse than a bad loser, take it on the chin, the better team won, end of story.

Gordy

Hes right that second goal was a f***ing freak of nature.... unbelievable he wasent aiming for the goal.. my ass...

Yes they did play much better than us in the second half, we played utter s***e couldent pass the ball or create any chances, but that second goal I just could NOT f***ing believe...

This item was edited on Saturday, 22nd June 2002, 23:14

There`s nothing worse than a bad loser...
Your right...Brazil are sore losers. Turkey...Belgium...England. Lets have a level playing field. In the first half almost every time England got the ball the ref gave a free kick to Brazil. If you lumped all our so called dives etc & weighed them against Brazil & other teams we would not come anywhere close. No one likes the Brazilian team more than me....BUT NOT THIS BUNCH. I also predicted that a bad ref could cost us the game a few days ago on this forum.

surely your not suggesting the ref was biased towards Brazil. There is the small matter of the ref sending off brazils best player off after 57 mins unfairly. What more could he have done for england?

This item was edited on Friday, 21st June 2002, 11:49

Well I suppose he could have kicked the ball into Brazil`s net or maybe he could have just taught the English how to do so. ;-)

Have I missed something - did Brazil lose today? How can they be sore losers?

Just face it England are not as good as the media and pundits make them out to be...............today proved that :0)

It`s just not bloody fair that England have gone out.

I just don`t know how the FIFA officials can look at themselves in the mirror any more. I mean, why on earth did they allow Brazil to turn up for the game...it`s unbelievable and unfair. If Brazil hadn`t played we would`ve won for certain!

It`s a conspiracy, nobody likes us English!

To be fair, it`s not the refs fault that we lost.

Also, notice that he didn`t give us anything decision wise after ugly-mug was sent off. That`s the price you pay I guess.

On a serious note, I think there is an argument to be made against that ref - 3 matches refereed at the finals, 4 sendings off, in what has been a pretty clean World Cup.
Bb

In the fist half 50/50 balls were almost all given to Brazil. The ones that were given to us the Brazilians picked up the ball & ran off with it & nothing was said. Immediately before the First Brazilian goal Beckham had to jump or have possible further damage to his legs by the Brazilian on the left sliding in with a two footed so called tackle. If it had been an English player doing that a free kick would have been given to the Brazilians. The goal would not have happened as half time was approaching fast.
Unlike some on these forums, I would like to see any of our 5 nations win the world cup & will not gloat over there getting knocked out. I also was sad that Ireland got knocked out.