Page 1 of copied dvd`s

in my mail this morning was a nice leaflet about copied dvd`s. about picture being rubbish and the sound being muffled and how most where copied using a camcorder in a cinema. the movie company`s have brought this on themselves by using different region`s and the price difference. if all dvd`s cost the same and where released at the same time. no one would buy a copy..
also their security, i saw a copy of walking tall starring the rock.. the picture and sound where perfect. i had the time code running on the left of the screen and a logo on the right of the screen saying "property of mgm/ ua.. so someone must have supplied the film to some one else to copy.......
that`s my opinion....

I totally agree with you Geoff!
If the dvd/film companies sold the same product at the same price in each country, alot of the piracy would be cut out. Also, even though people buy copied DVD`s, the market is still booming and the film companies make millions and millions each year inspight of the piracy.Alot of people will buy a copy for a fiver or so, and then buy the actual DVD when its released offcially anyhow.

What it comes down too, is this; DVD/FILM companies need to stop being greedy and Release DVDs Everywhere, Same Time, Same Price.

If they did this, and possibly released dvds with a retail of £12.99 RRP im sure the rise in official dvd sales would increase dramastically and cover the slight loss they would make for not selling them at £19.99 RRP.

Thats what i think anyhoo.
Yoda

Buy a copied dvd? are you mad...dont you know people who are selling them are supporting terrorists and organised crime warlords! (or so they have you believe)

You learn something new everyday eh...I never knew my mate at work was a terrorist or a crime warlord...but it does explain the balaclava :p

The turnaround time between release of the film at the cinema and DVD is also too long a film cannot have a run longer than say, 3 months (some only last a couple of weeks!) Now if they are released say within a one month time frame all over the world a DVD should be on the shelves 4 months after the first day of it`s cinema release.

A lot of people who buy an illegal DVD have seen it in the cinema and can`t wait to see it again!

Bearing in mind that DVD players cost £25.00 these days everybody has got one so due to sheer economy of scale it should mean that prices will fall.

A DVD should not cost more that £9.99 IMHO

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I would buy copys even if all the money went to removed I say this because if he is selling them cheaper on the car boot sales, using an army of middle class 14yr olds!
He is a modern robin hood!

GROW UP WT[at]T

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I`ve removed the offending posting - rather than post inflammatory comments, Matt, please report posts of that nature to ourselves - e-mail link at the foot of every page :D

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A DVD should not cost more that £9.99 IMHO

They don`t cost much more than that as it is.

Brand new Region 1 DVDs are already close to the £10 mark, if you buy from the likes of DVDSoon. Even at Play.com, £12-£14 is the norm for new Region 2 titles. You might pay more at a "real" shop, but why would you want to do that? I haven`t bought DVDs on the UK High Street in years.

And that`s just for new films - older titles are often around the £5 mark, and frequently less. In the last month I`ve bought a shedload of films from DVDSoon`s MGM promotion, for just £3.20 each including postage.

Still, if you want to pay £5 for a 20p DVD-R with the title written in crayon, it`s up to you. :D

Mike

This is strictly an open message, so nobody get defensive and start a flame war because you`ll only be wasting your time.

I know a lot of people have issues with the Studios, but the bottom line is that pirate DVDs don`t do any of us any favours. They are crap quality, they are helping to pay the wages of some pretty nasty people and they are completely illegal. If you`re so totally hot for a new movie that you`re prepared to buy a bulk-copied, low-quality disc carrying a badly-focussed camcorder recording made at the Kowloon Odeon, then maybe you should change your medication. And nobody start banging on about the quality of industry screeners because you`ve got even less right to be watching one of those than the pirates` cams.

If you absolutely have to give your hard-earned to some dodgy bloke from accounting who "has a mate with connections" (probably Al-Quaeda), you`re probably big enough and ugly enough to make your own decisions, but these forums aren`t the place to start banging on about either the advantages of pirate DVDs, the quality of pirated material or the address of a friendly peg-legged gentleman.

I`m not laying down the law on behalf of the website. I`m suggesting a little common-sense in view of the news report on piracy I posted on the 13th. Go on, admit you never read it.

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As a result of a 12 month investigation by FACT into forum members on an unnamed website, ten search warrants were issued and nine people arrested. A major haul of counterfeit DVDs was seized and on further investigation of these materials, a large quantity of paedophilia was also discovered. The computer and associated material were handed back to police for a full analysis to be carried out, pending serious charges.

Watch your backs.

J Mark Oates

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i was trying to make the point that the trade in copied dvd`s would not be has big as it seems to be. iam old enough to remenber when you bought a record on the sleeve was a message "home taping is killing music" well they are still around these days coining it in.. the market for dvd`s is massive world wide if we were all treated the same for release dates and prices the copied market would not be as big.
i have seen some really bad copies who wants to pay a fiver for something that has bad pictures and sound. it`s up the studio`s to sort out the mess they made in the first place

I agree completely. The Studios are making a lot of noise about perceived losses, but they`re really turning counting chickens into an art form. The sad fact is that they`re hanging on to their precious marketing model they`ve been using since the 1930s and they`ve no intention of bringing their industry into the 21st Century and addressing the global market that`s developed. The pirates fulfil the gap in the market that they`ve made. People want the choice of seeing a new movie either at the cinema or in their own home, and they don`t care who gives them the service they want. Frequently movies do better in the DVD market than they do in the theatres, and also frequently DVD sales of a bad movie suffer because of bad word of mouth from cinema audiences.

I have a daring idea for a new global market - day and date releases on DVD alongside the cinema release. You could go to the cinema, see the movie and get a rebate on the price of the DVD with your cinema ticket. The new DVDs would sensibly priced at (say) around £10 for a single disc, £15 for an SE (both RRPs), and carry no region coding. They could still have CSS and Macrovision to settle their paranoid little minds, but with the discs being discounted under various offers and widely available worldwide there`d be little point or opportunity for pirates.

I`ve regularly ranted on about this topic in the past, so thanks Geoff for giving me another opportunity m8 ;)

Maybe in the distant future saner heads like ourselves might run Hollywood; the talk of HD-DVD including some slackening of protection systems for personal home use is very promising but I`m sure the various interested parties will go out of their way to cock it all up. Hey-ho, that`s why they call it La-la Land. 8)

EDIT: I have heard that most people who download or buy silvers frequently buy the kosher version of the DVD when it comes out, so they`ve watched the pirate version in a "try before you buy" sense. I wonder how many sales they`d lose if they closed that loophole? Perhaps that could be the thinking behind their Digital Rights Management idea for HD-DVD - you buy the disc for perhaps £2 to try it and after a week, the disc locks up and you take it back to the shop. If you want to keep watching the disc, you press a button on the remote, the player phones home and gets the key to the disc and unlocks it permanently. You`re then billed for another £8. The only problem with that is the free-meal mob would find a hack double quick and ruin it all for the rest of us.

J Mark Oates

This item was edited on Wednesday, 21st July 2004, 19:30